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Deal calls for pumps that fix ‘hot fuel’ problem

KansasCity.com -- A fix for “hot fuel” is finally on the way.

In a precedent-setting decision, a federal judge has approved Costco Wholesale’s plans to keep customers from being shortchanged because gasoline and diesel fuel lose energy value as their temperature goes up.

In 14 states, not including Kansas and Missouri, Costco is set to be the first retailer to install pumps that automatically adjust fuel volume to account for temperature.
Costco was among several defendants in class-action lawsuits alleging that oil companies and retailers were costing consumers billions of dollars a year by selling them fuel without adjusting for temperature. Last year, Costco was the first to offer to settle the suits, which had landed in U.S. District Court in Kansas City, Kan.


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Submitted Apr 29, 2012 By: ziyulu
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honda0105
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 6:01:32 AM

how much is it really different?
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crep1291
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:20:20 AM

There's the reverse problem in the north. That's why all the gas pumps in Canada say that volumes are "adjusted" for 15C (59F). Not sure if the pumps need to be replaced or if they can simply be upgraded. The cost of a thermocouple (to measure gas temperature) is negligible when compared to the overall price of the pump.
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calypso93
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 8:51:29 AM

I think there's more to this. Maybe the pump adjusts the amount delivered so that you'll have the gallons you paid for once it's heated up in your tank.
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Dr Gas
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:50:43 AM

And another thing - WHO do you think will pay for these NEW gas pumps??

Do you think Costco out of the goodness of thier heart will just spring for these!!!????!!

No you'll pay either in the store for higher prices or gas that isn't as cheap as it has been !!!
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Dr Gas
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:46:00 AM

REALLY !!!!!!!

Does 15 cents REALLY MATTER !!!!
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JamesCalvin
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 6:49:26 AM

How will the pumps sense temperature?

Will the temperature of the underground gas tanks be used or the temperature of the gas in the pump as is sits in the hot sun?

Any body know?
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 4:27:20 AM

How about the cold problem in the north?
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 1:41:58 AM

Ok
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 12:48:57 AM

Interesting thought
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:16:47 PM

good
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:15:35 PM

OK
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:13:14 PM

Ok.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:12:27 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:12:20 PM

i'm sure the government will get it right. they have everything else they touch. sure.....
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:09:49 PM

hot fudge...
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:07:21 PM

OK..
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:07:17 PM

This is a nightmare waiting to happen.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:07:11 PM

Methinks the cost will exceed the benifit.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:06:54 PM

Hard to believe.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:06:04 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:05:24 PM

why not all stations everywhere
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:05:24 PM

Cool, gas that is.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:04:46 PM

guess we have been getting it in Florida
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:04:14 PM

I think the premise for this is faulty.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:03:51 PM

Okay
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:02:45 PM

How about a deal that LOWERS the price at the pump.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:02:25 PM

old news
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 11:00:27 PM

...
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:59:52 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:57:20 PM

Okay...............
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:55:30 PM

That is the least of consumer problems when it comes to getting ripped off by gouged fuel prices.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:53:25 PM

interesting!!!
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:53:18 PM

Use the technology
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:53:06 PM

They have already been adjusting for temperature in Canada for decades now.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:52:28 PM

Last year and the year before for 100 years!
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:52:06 PM

That would be 60 degrees F.
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bigdipperMS
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:51:22 PM

Good for Costco. This is only a real problem in the Southern Zones. Pumps are set for 69 degree F.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:50:56 PM

Good
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:50:29 PM

anything for an advantage over the consumer - just like the companies in New York charging for use of cards
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:49:52 PM

Interesting thought
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:48:17 PM

No big difference to us, the consumers. But, it dings the oil companies big time. To us pennies are meaningless, to them those pennies add up to billions.
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USCCRN
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:48:01 PM

Does this apply to all gas stations too? It should.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:47:26 PM

Carman, please do not SHOUT in the forums.

I believe that Costco is a well-run company that wants to turn a profit while treating its customers fairly. There was a very interesting one-hour program about Costco on CNBC just a few days ago.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:47:12 PM

Should this way for years.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:45:34 PM

Cue the posts claiming the fact that gasoline loses energy value as its temperature rises is Obama's fault in 3, 2, 1...
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HDFXR1991
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:43:43 PM

And now they fix this long over due problem
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:43:13 PM

How much difference can it make?
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:42:21 PM

This is long overdue. I've heard the retailers in the north are the biggest offenders.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:38:44 PM

ANOTHER INTERESTING CASE. WHY HAS NOT ONE THOUGHT OF THIS BEFORE.
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:37:17 PM

Costco to the rescue.
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